Well bought a new kite. This kite is the Toxic 8.0 by HQ. It is an 8 meter kite and pulls like a truck. On the first day out as I was learning to fly it down in Huntington Beach, it became readily apparent that this Kite had all the pull I would need for my next crazy adventure of trying Kite Buggying. As the winds picked up during the day, in the wind window it would pull me around on the sand. Looking forward to more experimenting with this Kite.